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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:40 pm 
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Car Model: 9000 CSE Anniversary.
So I became the proud owner of my first Saab a few days ago, I'm very happy so far! It was an absolute bargain at £250 with a dud A/C compressor and some small niggles. The owner was very pleasant and has owned the car for 17 years with a full service history.
It's a lovely drive, very smooth and quiet, very long gearing! It got better MPG on the motorway run than my 1.6 Punto does :shock: (by 2mpg but every little counts)
I'll get some pictures up soon, for now it needs new tyres and an alloy refurb as the tyres are leaking through the corrosion on the alloys (anyone know a good place to get this done in Hampshire?)

Few questions I have at the moment, are the wing mirrors heated? Mine appear to be misted most of the time... It takes quite a while to start, not excessively but holding it on the starter for about 3 seconds, this normal?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:10 pm 
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Welcome! Depends where you are in Hants, but I use 360 Alloy refurbishes in Reading.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:04 am 
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Great, you got it then!

Wing mirrors should be heated and they'll come on with the rear heated window.

Have you got a picture of two of the car yet?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:40 pm 
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mirrors are heated yes
if you look under mirror theres a hole you click it sideways the mirror will come out
i got 2 new old stock miror glasses last year for 5 quid each so worth keeping your eye out for some maybe
or if there bad someone on here will have some going spare i bet i gave my old ones away so sorry cant help there

3 seconds doesnt sound overly long maybe the batterys not as good as it could be most cars sold have a dying battery from my experience

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:35 pm 
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Car Model: 9000 CSE Anniversary.
Thanks for the help, I'll see if they clear with heated rear window. Battery voltage shows a low of usually 8-9v when starting, not sure if thats particularity bad, obviously once running is giving about 14.6.
No pictures yet as its a bit dirty from the drive home and it keeps on bl**dy raining!
Boot lid is pretty heavy to open so I'm guessing the struts are a bit past it. Speaking of mirrors, I assume they fold in? I tried the other day but it made a very loud, what can only be described as a screeching noise as I started to fold it, didn't want to damage it so I just left it.

The tyres still look physically pumped up (I haven't checked the pressure but they aren't visibly going down) so the problem isn't as bad as I thought so I will leave them until my car has sold and then I can fund the alloy refurb.
I don't think the heated seats work, well at least the drivers anyway, I didn't notice it getting warm on my test of it, should be fixable though.
I was hoping for cruise control but seems it doesn't have it, whats involved in retrofitting it?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:20 pm 
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Yeah, get those pictures in :)

8-9v at that point is lowest voltage whilst cranking, mine was showing around 9-10v so not too bad, mine was bought just before I bought the car, previous owner had foresight to get the V6 battery as higher capacity.
Boot lid is heavy anyway, look at what it is, half the size of your Punto eh lol. I believe the mirrors do fold in as they have clips to keep them in, not convince on this but my C900 folds in but no way of staying in, this is what makes me think they do fold in. The C900 do fold but they don't like it so maybe that's where ours are common, sure someone will say for sure shortly.
The seats are probably a broken wire within the seat, fixable for sure but fiddly, very very common this but with a multi-meter you can check for sure it is the seat very very easily (just check continuity at the plug from the seat) Cruise is fairly easy from what I've read, just need to make sure you collect all the bits to fit on


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:25 pm 
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Further to my post above, check this out for cruise for sale: http://www.uksaabs.co.uk/UKS/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=176493


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:16 pm 
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Thanks for the heads up about cruise, something I'd consider further down the line but got more important things to sort at the moment, not to mention the scary MOT coming up in March :shock:


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:59 pm 
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Also one of the bulbs is out on the instrument cluster, well I'm guessing since the fuel gauge is pretty dim looking compared to the rest of the gauges, do they come out relatively easily?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:09 pm 
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I take it that this is it? - http://www.saabscene.com/forum/threads/ ... R-SALE-(UK)-1998-9000-CSE-Anniversary-2.3t-140-000m

If it is - had you had not got it, I was going to go for it!

Watching this one with great interest! Feels like this!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:36 am 
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Excellent.. yeah get some pics and info up..
I just went and picked up another one yesterday to... blue 2.3 fpt Anni... cruise didn't work on way home but I'll look into that..

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:24 pm 
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brooklands wrote:
I take it that this is it? - http://www.saabscene.com/forum/threads/ ... R-SALE-(UK)-1998-9000-CSE-Anniversary-2.3t-140-000m

If it is - had you had not got it, I was going to go for it!

Watching this one with great interest! Feels like this!

Yep thats the one! Owner was lovely, I'd been speaking to him before Christmas about it but he was away so it was my earliest chance to go look at it, otherwise I would've gone sooner!

I love the Aero alloys so much, they go great with the car, still raining here sadly so I can only upload rubbish pictures at the moment :|
Hopefully today I'm planning on getting the minidisc radio out and fitting something with USB input, the owner did include the original Saab radio which can be put back in at any point for the sake of originality. I want to fit a nice subtle boost gauge, this is my second turbocharged car (petrol ones, diesels don't count in my opinion :P) and I used to love watching the turbo gauge flutter about, looking at a black faced TIM one, not sure where to mount yet, I don't want to use the storage spaces below the radio, I've seen people replace the clock but I don't know if I want to ditch the clock either...
Neither headlight wiper works, in the UK am I honestly going to use them? No. Can they be removed without leaving traces behind or shall I just disconnect and leave them?
Been dying to poke around under the bonnet but I'm too much of a wimp to do it in the rain so hopefully it stops!

Only issues that are actually bothering me right now is the clutch seems quite heavy? Almost as heavy as a 1992 Panda I had which didn't have an assisted clutch at all. Are they usually fairly heavy?
Power steering, assume hydraulic? It wants to go right at low speeds, like the power steering isn't centered properly?? If I let go of the wheel coasting at as low as 1mph the wheel turns right about half an inch, stops, then does another half inch, stops again every 2-3 seconds?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:55 pm 
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Don't know whereabouts you are but I have used Solent Wheels based in Ampfield near Romsey. Conveniently Steve Meredith has a garage next door - he specialises in Saab and runs both a 900 and a 9000. Solent Wheels has a website.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:15 pm 
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. I want to fit a nice subtle boost gauge, this is my second turbocharged car (petrol ones, diesels don't count in my opinion :P) and I used to love watching the turbo gauge flutter about, looking at a black faced TIM one, not sure where to mount yet,


You can retrofit the turbo gauge from a fpt 9000. I did so on a lpt 2.0 9000. Much neater. ;-)
(And whilst you are at it replace the u/s bulbs for the fuel gauge) :-)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:00 pm 
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Car Model: 9000 CSE Anniversary.
Thanks for the Solent wheels suggestion, its not too far away, I'll give them a ring when it I get round to sorting the wheels.
I'm not sure about fitting a gauge from an fpt, does the needle move all that much? From my understanding the lpt is only about 6psi?

For some reason when I start the car it says 'Check Radiator', I've checked and its still there :wink: :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:52 pm 
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So as promised (eventually) I've got some pictures, it won't stop raining so unfortunately its all wet...

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My headlight wipers don't work, although sometimes they're in a different position so maybe they occasionally do work and then stop, this means they end up 'parked' in a weird place....

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I can't move the wipers by hand, how can I adjust them so they lay flat and then unplug the motors?

Car also has an incar Nokia kit...
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Obviously not of much use in 2017 want to remove it but heard its a bit of a pain to remove the wood.... I'm wondering if I can get a ACC out I might be able to access it? Can the ACC be removed without taking the wood surround off first?
Tyres still holding pressure after 1.5 weeks so obviously the leak isn't what I'd call 'bad'


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:38 pm 
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Welcome, and nice buy.

The wipers never do work, and aren't much use even when working. I always found they would eventually park in the right place and I'd take the opportunity to disconnect them and loop the washer tube back around on itself, or cap it at the connector.

What's the car like for rust? The windscreen surround, front and rear arch lips, rear arch tubs and rear shock mounts is where they usually go. So long as the body is good the mechanicals will go on forever, even if you do have a frequent supply of niggles.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:29 am 
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Where do I disconnect the headlight wipers? Do the headlights themselves need to be removed?

The previous owner listed all of the niggles to me rather kindly hence why I got the car so cheap. The central locking is a bit odd sometimes but it plays ball 95% of the time, sometimes it won't unlock a certain door but all the others do etc. I will fix this at some point. Front passenger wing has some rust bubbling which is to be expected really, haven't looked at rear shock mounts so I'll have a poke around soon, windscreen has a tiny bit of bubbling in bottom corner, I noticed when I test drove and asked the owner if windscreen had been replaced, it had, initially leaked so was taken somewhere else and fixed properly so hopefully its not too much of an issue.

Another strange thing I have is a couple of unconnected wires hanging out over by the intake hose (intercooler to throttle body) literally just above the intercooler end, I can't see anything obvious they could go to? Cruise control maybe if it were fitted?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:34 am 
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The wires sound like they could be the connector for an apc valve? That is if I understand the location correctly.



As for the screen surround rust, it could be worse than it appears. There is a thread on here about repair, may have been written by mossypossy. It's early so I'm a bit vague in specific details right now. No caffeine intake yet!



Finally, to remove the headlamp wipers you need to remove the grille, the indicators, then the headlights and then the headlamp motors. Once you have done it a few times it will take less than 5 mins. You just need a small socket set and a thin screwdriver in case the electrical connector for the headlight motor is stiff. The indicators have a spring clip hat holds them into the wing. No need to disconnect the lights electrically. WD40 may help if bolts are rusty.



I am rubbish with a spanner and figured it out in a few minutes, it's a bit like meccano so worth just giving a go. :)


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:08 am 
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Your acc will just pull out.. its not to difficult to remove the wood dash.. plenty info on here or the haynes manual..
You can just unplug the wipers without removing anything also if you want to keep the wipers at the headlights..

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